教会对【圣灵的浸事件】偏向断章取义的理解
奉主耶稣基督圣名写这篇感想！这是神感动我写的，並不是杨传道感动我写的，因为杨传道还是深信必需要受圣灵的浸说出方言来。换句话说，有人想要审要判的，请找神吧！这事与我无关！
前言
事隔两千多年，信神的人想要明白神真理的真正意义，非得寻根究底拨开文字随着时间朝代的演变，不同的文化背景，环境的变迁，和不同的语文的困扰，得獲真理的意义。
真理的定义是：【一个被认为是对的事实或信念】。神的真理所述说的事实或信念更是如此，时间上不管是以前或现在，或在各种不同的情况下，神真理所传讲的事实和信念都应用的上都是对的。理解神真理的事实或信息，如果能达到与神的原意一模一样的境界，所理解到的事实和信念，就能【放之四海而皆准】。真理的真並非你说了就算，而是要经过各种不同环境情况【放之四海】的测试，这事实和信念还是完全适用矗立不倒，这就是【真理】的【真】的真正意义。
这不是一个天方夜谭式的幻想，因为我们有神的灵在我们里头，圣灵会提醒我们主耶稣全部的吩咐，圣灵会带领我们进入一切真理里面，尤其是那些主耶稣因门徒不能承受所以没有告诉门徒的一些真理（约翰16：12），只要我们能虚心接受圣灵的指引，凴神所赐的智慧和聪明，总有一天愿望会被实现的。
我们所认识的神的【大】与【深】（约伯记11：7，哥林多前书2：10），是超乎人的智慧所能完全理解的。所以人只能理解神所显明的，人没有法子探讨神还没有向人显明的事。换句话说【没有人见过神】，我们只见过神向我们显明的事迹而已。
可以说，從神向我们显明我们可以看到可以理解的事项中，旧约时代，我们看到神创造宇宙万物，看到了万有的开始；新约时代，神告诉我们这一切万有，将在一个我们无从知道的日子里，都歸于无有。因此新约和这一世代的人存有不可割切的关系，新约所立下的契约，是神赐给世人一条【因信称义】之道，唯有信靠耶稣基督，人才能得永生，因为信耶稣的，其实不是信耶稣而是信那差耶稣来的神。（约翰福音12:44，45）。所以神在新约里所传讲的命令，没有用抽象式启示录式的文体，只用直接式陈述式比喻式的文体（约翰16：25）。只要你用心去读，只要你不断章取义，只要你小心保持神话语的连贯性，只要你不强解神的话语，只要你求神让你看到神留下的字句里原本字句的意义，神一定会赐给你明白神交托下的命令真理。
在追求真理的过程中，我发现到一些教会真理的理解竟然在某种情况下行不通了。我们教会的理解如果是真理的原本意思，这理解应该放之四海而皆准。感觉上，不是神的真理出了问题（神是大能的神，神是无所不知的神），很可能只是教会的理解出了问题（人对真理的一个理解）。或许你会认为人有时候不能理解神的命令旨意不是什么大不了的事情，但如果我们從主耶稣所说的一句话的角度去看（约翰福音17:3 认识你独一的真神，并且认识你所差来的耶稣基督，这就是永生。），不理解神的真理就是不认识神的真理等于是不认识神，不认识神就没有永生，这问题就非常之大了，不是吗？
以下是我对圣灵的浸事件研究了6-7年所得到的理解，你可以把它当着只是我个人的观点。我私底下期望有一天，求神能赐给我理解和观点，和神真理所提到的事实和信息一致的境界。
教会对【圣灵的浸事件】偏向断章取义的原因
你的直觉或许使你觉的我是在哗世取宠，以浮夸的言行博取世人的好感，夸奖或拥护，但我可以非常肯定的对你回答说，这是大错特错的直觉。
在我还不认识神的时候，神让我口说方言，使我觉悟神是真的，神的灵是真的。因为【在自己的口说出方言的一刹那】，我马上醒悟神的灵真的在我里头，神的灵是真的，那么神一定也是真的。这是主耶稣的应许，那么主耶稣也同样是真的。这就是为什么使徒保罗会向哥林多教会圣徒解释说，“说方言，不是为信的人作证据，乃是为不信的人”（哥林多前书14：22）。所以保罗向那些误解【说听不懂的方言】的哥林多圣徒说，意思是说你们爱慕做先知讲道是好的，但你们如果因此而只向神求【说方言的恩赐】，以为得到【说听不懂的方言就是得到做先知讲到的恩赐】，那你们是大错特错了。
感谢神让我听得懂使徒保罗的解释，我也不轻看说方言的恩赐（是神赐的，怎可以轻看呢？），却也会像保罗一样，勸那还没有得到特别恩赐的同灵，不要只求造就自己而已的恩赐，要求神赐给你能造就和你一起集聚集会的同灵的恩赐（哥林多前书14：5）。
对【圣灵的浸事件】，教会是偏向断章取义的理解，原因如下：
(1)自己跳进自己挖的一个【断章取义】的坑。教会权威人士如谢顺道长老在写【圣灵论】时，公然举证，要了解说方言的前因后果，只能参考“使徒行传”一书而已（注：只反对这一点），其他在使徒行传之前或之后的圣经书的记载，和说方言受圣灵没有关系。既然相信【神是自有永有】（出埃及记3：14），整本圣经都在讲神，神的灵和耶稣的事，要正确了解圣灵的浸事件的发生，怎么可以只参考使徒行传而已呢？果真如此，专家所提议观看前后文以避免断章取义的方法，竟然在研究【圣灵的浸事件，领受圣灵，和说方言】的前因后果时，可以暂时不必遵守，但在其他不同题目的研究时却不可不遵受。那不是在向世界众人说，神让人记载的【圣灵的浸有关的章节】是不循文字章法，难道是用灵言灵语写的，没有圣灵的人，根本读不懂研究不出一个所以然来，可能吗？
(2)对使徒行传1和2章整段的理解，漠视【神是无所不在的神】这一个事实。难道【无所不在的圣灵，需要再降临在祂已经存在的地方吗】？（耶利米23：24，以弗所书1：23，诗篇139：7-12，箴言15：3）就因为这简单的误解，把看到的火焰，听到的风声，一个【圣灵显现的样式】，误解成【圣灵的降临】。一棋之错，以后的【全盘，在一错再错下，皆输】了。也因为这误解，忽略了约翰福音14章里，主耶稣应许向门徒【显现】的话，没有对照14章，只能和一般神学家一样，对【圣灵的浸的事件】，只知其然而不知其所以然。
(3)漠视【文字功能】，没有真正了解【充满】的意义。所以只认识【充满是指装满】的意思而已，解释出来的理解只能达到这文字意义的水平和范围。因此看到的充满，只能描述为好像倒水在瓶子里，当水装满水瓶，水瓶满了水一定溢出来。所以只能看到这样子的圣灵充满，就立下结论说，你看只要你被圣灵装满，当圣灵装满了你流了出来你就自然而然的说起方言来（有水流才有流水声），你没有流水声是因为你还没有被圣灵装满，再求再求。【无所不在】和【无所不能】的圣灵，只能行出有质有量的水的功能而已吗？能充满万有的圣灵竟然进入你里头却不能把你装的满满的？难道【充满的另一个意义， 是指赐给】在你的知识里就这么不经看吗？
(4)漠视圣经的记载，使徒行传描述【圣灵的浸发生的程序】，（人的视觉，看到的）圣灵降临，充满那人，使（恩赐）那人口说方言。我们却把次序倒传过来，死也要强认，【说方言是圣灵充满的前提】。真的吗？整个宇宙万物都要说出方言来，你才能相信圣灵是无所不在充满万有的吗？
(5)连研究使徒行传，也是用断章取义的方法。为什么只提使徒行传8章（撒玛利亚人），10章（哥尼流外帮人）和19章（约翰的洗，不晓得圣灵），使徒们【求证说方言】的例子，而完全不提2章（三千犹太人）和8章（埃提阿伯太监）使徒们【没有求证说方言】的记载的例子呢？如果使徒彼得和其他人的理解是【信而受洗必领受应许到圣灵，一定要会说方言的话】？那么为什么会出现，【一个需要求证说方言的例子】和【一个不需要求证说方言的例子】呢？原因何在呢？这证明，教会的理解和使徒们的理解，完全不同。尤其在其他所有的使徒书信里面，我们没有看到使徒们以【说方言的恩赐】去分裂主耶稣要合一的肢体，但我们教会却是这样做，而且是【名正言顺地做】。
(6)改换词句的原有意义，【受圣灵】这词句的意思就是领受圣灵，也是指圣灵进入我们里头。【说方言】这词的意思是指得到【说听不懂的舌音的一个恩赐】，是圣灵赐给的一个恩赐。但教会却把【受圣灵】这词的定义改变成【说方言】另一个不同的定义，两者相替交换，有时又把它们分开来用，听到的人能不变糊涂吗？这方法很像把【ECCLESIA，集会】偷换成【KURIAKOS，教会】一摸一样。
(7)教会在逃避事实，【教会逃避和教会理解有冲突的经节】。为了护卫自己的不十分正确理解产生出来的教义，竟连【主耶稣亲口说的话，约翰福音6：56节】也甘愿放弃。叫人信耶稣才能得永生，又叫人可以不信耶稣所说的一些吩咐，这行为不是被称为【矛盾】吗？你说，主耶稣在末日的审判，教会所遗弃的字，会审判教会吗？
主耶稣向门徒说两个非常重要的豫言
主耶稣在同门徒吃了晚饭以后，【在事情还没有成就】时就豫先跟门徒说了两件将要发生在耶稣自己身上的事：
（A）约翰福音13:19 【如今事情还没有成就，我要先告诉你们，叫你们到事情成就的时候，可以信我（是基督）】。13:18 我这话不是指着你们众人说的。我知道我所拣选的是谁。现在要应验经上的话，说，【同我吃饭的人，用脚踢我】。13:21 耶稣说了这话，心里忧愁，就明说，【我实实在在的告诉你们，你们中间有一个人要卖我了】。
（B）约翰福音14:29 【现在事情还没有成就，我豫先告诉你们，叫你们到事情成就的时候，就可以信。】14:28 你们听见我对你们说了，【我去还要到你们这里来】。你们若爱我，因我到父那里去，就必喜乐，因为父是比我大的。
这两段经节也告诉我们，主耶稣向门徒豫言的事，一定会呈现在门徒的眼前。换句话说门徒一定会看到【主耶稣被出卖了】，【主耶稣离开门徒了】和【主耶稣回到门徒这里来了】，这些发生在耶稣身上的事情。
豫言的特徵，内容和目的
第一个豫言是指【你们中间有一个人要卖我了】。
第二个豫言是指【我去】【还要到你们这里来】。
这两个豫言虽然不一样，但它们却拥有同样的特徵和目的，就是【如今事情还没有成就，我要先告诉你们】，和【叫你们到事情成就的时候，可以信】。
主耶稣【告诉门徒所说的豫言】，会在门徒面前发生吗？会被成就吗？当事情在门徒的面前成就时门徒会信吗？
发生在门徒面前的一些豫言
【你们中间有一个人要卖我了】这个豫言，眼睁睁的在门徒的眼前被成就了。犹大出卖主耶稣，事情成就了，但是门徒却没有因此而【信】。不仅是没有【信】，相反的，圣经记载说所有的门徒都逃光了。
【我去】这个豫言，也是眼睁睁的在门徒的眼前被成就了。主耶稣死在十字架上，三天後复活，向门徒显现有四十天之久，然后在门徒眼前升天，离开了门徒。第二个豫言的前一半被成就了，但圣经也告诉我们，门徒还是没有【信】。
【我还要到你们这里来】第二个豫言的第二半，有没有眼睁睁的在门徒的眼前被成就了？主耶稣的门徒会不会看到就【信】基督呢？这就是我们要探讨的一个秘密。
在答案还没有显明之前，我们来分析一下：
主耶稣基督向门徒豫言还没有发生的事，为得是，【叫门徒看到事情成就的时後，就可以信】。难道主耶稣对门徒说了两个承诺，只实现一个半而已吗？难道主耶稣在还没有达到他的目的之前，会放弃了他的计划和承诺吗？
從属世的眼光来分析，一个非常有决心有毅力的世人，当他向另一个人做了一个承诺，都不会半途而废，那更何况是神！神岂有半途而废之理！
主耶稣所说的第二个豫言的第二半
主耶稣向门徒豫言【还要到你们这里来】的详情记载在约翰福音14：15-22节里面。
主耶稣说，爱主的，遵守主命令的人，主耶稣不会撇下他们为孤儿。【不撇下他们】也等于是说【不离开他们】的意思。门徒如果晓得主耶稣没有离开他们呢？【14：20节说，到那日，你们就知道我在父里面，你们在我里面，我也在你们里面。】如果在那日所发生的事情是看不到听不见的，【小信】的门徒如何能知道【耶稣在父里面，他们在耶稣里面，耶稣在他们里面】呢？主耶稣不是一直知道跟随他的门徒是小信的吗？所以这就是为什么主耶稣在14：21节向门徒承诺向他们【显现】的原因了。记住了，主耶稣只说【显现】，主耶稣並没有说【降临】。
主耶稣虽然没有直接说明是要以什么样的【形态】显现，其实主耶稣已经在14：15-22节里阐述的明明白白的，只是我们没有留心没有注意到而已。
在说这段话之前，主耶稣也跟门徒说【保惠师】的事。【保惠师】就是圣灵（约翰14：26，），圣灵是神的灵（约翰一书3：24，以弗所书4：30），也是基督的灵（罗马书8：9， 彼得前书1：11），也是神儿子的灵（加拉太书4：6）
主耶稣在（约翰14：17说“就是真理的圣灵，乃世人不能接受的。因为不见他，也不认识他。你们却认识他。因他常与你们同在，也要在你们里面。”）。【门徒如何看见】一位还没有到来的保惠师呢？【门徒如何认识】一位还没有到来的保惠师呢？一位还没有到来的保惠师【如何已经和门徒同在】呢？
所以主耶稣是在说他自己，因为保惠师就是圣灵，就是基督的灵，不是吗？因此主耶稣也是在暗示门徒，他们的【主】会以【圣灵的样式】显现给他们看！
这就是为什么我看到【五旬节圣灵的浸整个事件的发生】，本来人肉眼看不见的【圣灵，神的灵，基督的灵】显现给门徒看；无所不在的神充满万有的神（耶利米23：24，以弗所书1：23，诗篇139：7-12，箴言15：3）何需再降临在一个祂已经存在的地方呢？所以五旬节时门徒看到的火焰听到的风声，是一个【基督的灵显现的样式】，【不是降临】！这圣灵的显现与说方言，是给【不信的使徒们】做证据，使他们可以信！
我的一个期望
谢顺道长老属灵知识圣经知识逻辑思想的丰盛，是大家（包挂我在内）所景仰的。我这芝麻绿豆般的知识，根本是望尘莫及没得比，却看的出【圣灵论】虽然引用圣经经节，洋溢着诸般属灵智慧逻辑条理的丰盛，然而在紧要关头却向读者做出一个【很有理性的断章取义】的建议，是我始料不及的，这也是使我非常迷惑的地方！难道所引用的丰盛圣经知识所彰显的逻辑理性只是一个烟幕弹，是为了遮掩【断章取义困扰信徒】而设的？
但不知道为什么，我心里却觉得只要他老人家能够读到以上所呈现的简单的阐述，他老人家一定会明白主耶稣的豫言，一定会在门徒眼前发生使他们【信基督】。并且这豫言就是实现在【五旬节圣灵的浸的事件里】。
我如果把这研究心得呈上TRC，将被推进大家提到的旋转门，或许没有机会达到谢长老那里就已经被埋葬了。
读者如果认识谢长老的，知道【顺道信箱】的，请你为教会的前途，百万人的灵命，请他老人家过目仔细评论，一切责骂有我来承担。如果这是神开启我的心眼看到的是神的真理，他老人家错过了，将是一件遗憾终生的事，至少他老人家没有好好利用神赐给他的身份地位，为神的真教会打开一个将近百年【因断章取义打下的死结】!
这就是为什么我把一切研究的成果，写成一本书（对不起只有英文版），要不要去读去查考，决定权在你们自己。但如果书里的信息能使你【更认识神】【更认识神所差来的耶稣基督】，那用你丢给服务生的小费买一个认识神的机会，你自己决定吧！
Church inclines towards out of context interpretation of [the Event of the Holy Spirit Baptism]
In the name of Lord Jesus Christ I write! I write because God has moved me to write and it is not Pr YM who has moved me because Pr YM still believes that somehow one still has to be baptized and speaking in other tongues. In other words, whoever would like to judge and to convict, please go after God! It has nothing to do with me!
Preface
It has been through more than two thousand years. Believers of God who would like to understand the true meaning of God’s truths, they have to research exhaustively uncovering the meaning of the origin words where the meaning has evolved over time. They have to understand the different culture, different environmental background and different in language, in order to get to the meaning of the truths.
Fundamentally, truth is defined as [a fact or belief that is accepted as true]. The facts and concepts delivered by God’s truths must be the same or beyond the dictionary definition. Irrespective of whether it was in the past or now, irrespective whether situations may be different, the facts and concepts of the truths are still applicable. Therefore in the understanding of the facts and concepts contained in God’s truths, if our understanding could match with the original meaning of the original words of God’s truth, then such understanding should also be applicable at all time and in all situation too. Therefore a truth is true is not because you have proclaimed that it is true. The truth must be tested with various conditions and situations. If it remains applicable with the vigorous testing, then the truth is true. This is what a truth supposes to mean!
This state or goal is not unachievable or is an illusion, because the Spirit of God is in us. The Holy Spirit will remind us all Lord Jesus’ teachings or commandments. The Holy Spirit will lead us into all truths especially those that Lord Jesus did not disclose to his disciples (John 16:12). Only if we could humbly accept the Holy Spirit’s guidance, in coupling with the wisdom and understanding given by God, such day will come where our wish will come true in one day.
The God we know is [vast] and [deep] and beyond what men can fathom. Therefore, it is a fact that men can only understand those that God has shown to us. Men cannot understand those which God does not want to show to us. In other words, [no one has seen God] and we can only fathom the part of the God where He has shown himself to us.
From the things that God has shown to us, in the Old Testament time, we see that God has created the universe. We have seen the beginning of everything; in the New Testament time, God has revealed to us that everything we see will be demolished at some time in the future. Men will not have the ability to know when the day is. Hence New Testament has intimate relationship with people of this world. The new covenant delivered in the New Testament defines a way for people to be saved, a way of [righteousness through faith]. People will have eternal life because they believe Lord Jesus because believe Jesus means believe God. (John 12:44-45) Because of this reason, in the new covenant, God delivers His commandments clearly and vividly though a simple statement style or a parable style but they are not given in abstract style or apocalyptic style (John 16:25). If you spend effort in studying the words, if you avoid interpreting out of context, if you avoid forcefully interpret God’s words with your own thinking, if you ask God to help uncover the original meaning of His original words, God will give you the understanding in all the commandments He has given to us.
In the process of searching for the truths, I come across some of the church’s understanding (of the truths) which cannot be applied in some circumstances. And it comes to my mind that if church’s interpretation is the same as the original meaning of the truths, then such understanding should not encountered such issue. And I think the problem I encounter is not because God’s truth itself is the problem. (God is Almighty and omniscience) It is most likely that church’s interpretation is the main culprit. You may think that this is not a big deal as every one of us knows that there is always a possibility of a typical human error problem. However if we refer to a verse given by Lord Jesus (John 17:3-4 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. NKJV), then if we misunderstood God’s truth may mean that we may not know God. If we do not know God, then we do not have the eternal life. This has become a very big deal! Isn’t it?
The followings are the research I have carried out for 6-7 years. If you like, you can treat it as my personal viewpoints. But down in my heart, I have asked God to give me the same understanding as the meaning of the facts and concepts given in His truths.
Reasons our church interpreted [the event of the Holy Spirit Baptism] out of its context
Well, your gut feeling may make you thing that I may be trying to attract your attention, your admiration or your support, through unrealistic exaggeration. I sternly warn you that such gut feeling does not have any basis at all.
At the time I did not know God, God had enabled me to speak with unknown tongues through my own mouth. This had made me realized that God is true and the Spirit of God is true. Because at the moment when my mouth uttering the unknown tongues, I realized that the Spirit of God was in me and therefore the Spirit of God is true. Hence God is also true. This was a promise given by Lord Jesus and therefore Lord Jesus is true too. This is exactly the reason why Apostle Paul said to the Corinthians Saints that “Tongues are signs not for believers but for unbelievers”. This was the reason that Apostle Paul explained to the Corinthians Saints that it was good to ask for the gift to be able to prophesy. But they had misunderstood the ability of speaking with unknown tongues as becoming a prophet prophesying.
Thanks God that I can understand Paul’s explanation. I do not dismiss any gift of speaking with unknown tongues. (It is a gift given by God, how could we dismiss it) But similar to Paul, I will advise people who have not received any spiritual gifts, do not just ask for the gift benefiting own self but ask for the gift that is beneficial to all who gather with you.
The followings are list of reasons of having out of context interpretation:
(1) We dig a hole of out of context interpretation and jump into it. Elder Hsieh is a respectable elder who has written the book of [The Holy Spirit]. He had boldly concluded in his argument that in order to understanding the cause and effect of the Holy Spirit Baptism, you must only refer to the book of Acts and nothing else. (Note: I only disagree with this one particular conclusion) The other books before and after the book of Acts has nothing to do with receiving the Holy Spirit and speaking with other tongues. But don’t we believe that [God is alpha and omega]. If God is self-existing and exists in eternity (Exodus 3:14), and the whole Bible book talks about God, His Spirit and Lord Jesus Christ, to fully understand the event of the Holy Spirit Baptism, how could we limit our research only in the book of Acts? If this is the right thing to do, then the advice given by the expert that we have to research the passages before and after to avoid out of context interpretation is not applicable when studying the Holy Spirit Baptism but we have to abide with this rule when studying other biblical topics. Is this not equivalent to telling the world that God had inspired the author to record the event of the Holy Spirit Baptism not following the grammar and style of the written language? Then was it being written in according to the spiritual language and that whoever does not receive the Holy Spirit in him will not be able to understand the spiritual words? Is it the case?
(2) The church ignored the fact that [God is omnipresence] in studying the book of Acts chapter 1 and 2. If we believe that God is omnipresence, then we should know there was no reason for the Spirit of God to descend onto the place the Spirit has already presented? Due to this negligence, the appearance of tongues of fire and the sound of violent gushing wind which was clearly a manifestation of the invisible Holy Spirit, had been explained by the church as the Spirit of God had just descended. This mistake had blinded the church and failed to look for the promise of manifestation by Lord Jesus given in the book of John chapter 14. Without referencing with John chapter 14, we could only see how the Baptism had happened but we did not know the reason why it had to happen in such a magnificent way?
(3) The church ignored the effect of word and did not fully understand the various meaning of the word [filled]. Because the church could only know the meaning of [filled] as filling up something, therefore the perception could only derive up to this level of understanding. Therefore, the church only saw the meaning of [filled] as like filling water into an empty jar. When the jar was full, water would overflow. From such perception the church concluded that if a person could be filled up by the Holy Spirit until overflowing, then automatically the person would have the ability uttering unknown tongues. (When water flow then only you will hear the sound of water flowing) Therefore the person did not produce the sound of flowing was due to the fact that he had not been filled up by the Holy Spirit yet. Then the only solution was to ask to be filled up! Think about it, the Holy Spirit is omnipresence and omniscience. How could the immeasurable Holy Spirit only possess the capability of measurable water? The Spirit of God has easily filled the whole universe and how could the Holy Spirit could not fill you up the minute He is in the person? How could the other meaning of the word [filled] which means giving and supplying, means nothing to you?
(4) The church had ignored and failed to respect biblical record. The book of Acts had described the complete process of the Holy Spirit Baptism. (In men’s vision) The Holy Spirit had descended, filled the people, and enabled men to speak with unknown tongues. But the church had changed the chronological order by saying that [speaking in tongues is precedence to being filled by the Holy Spirit]. Is it really true that speaking with other tongues had to happen first before the Holy Spirit will fill the person? Then do you need to hear the whole universe has to utter the unknown tongues before you can believe that the Holy Spirit has filled all in all?
(5) Ironically, even studying the book of Acts had been done out of its context. What was the reason that we only quoted Acts chapter 8 (Samaritan), chapter 10 (Cornelius and the Gentiles), and chapter 19 (John the Baptist baptism, had not heard about the Holy Spirit) showing that the disciples asked for the sign of speaking with unknown tongues but ignored chapter 2 (3 thousand Jews baptized) and chapter 8 (Eunuch baptized) where the disciples did not ask for the sign of speaking with unknown tongues? If Apostle Peter and the rest had the understanding that [believe and baptize and you shall receive the Holy Spirit, means that the person must have the capability of speaking with unknown tongues], then how come there were incidences of asking for the sign of speaking with unknown tongues and incidences of not asking for the sign of speaking with unknown tongues happened with these same group of people? What was the reason for both different incidences to happen? This is a proof that our church’s understanding is different than the understanding of the apostles. This is true as the apostles had never used the capability of speaking in tongues to divide Christ’s limbs but our church does so legitimately.
(6) Church had redefined the meaning of words. [Receive Holy Spirit] means receive the Holy Spirit and the phrase also meant to mean the Holy Spirit has entered the person. [Speaking in tongues] means uttering unknown tongues and it also means the person has received the spiritual gift of utterance. But church had defined [receive Holy Spirit] to mean [speaking in tongues] and vice versa. But some time it can also mean as it original mean. Won’t it be confusing to the audience? This scheme looks so much like the replacement of [ECCLESIA] with the word [CHURCH].
(7) Church was avoiding the truth. Church avoids using Bible verses which are opposing to our explanation. To protect church’s interpretations, church will go to the extent of dropping off [the words spoken by Christ in the book of John chapter 6:56]. How could a church who preaches to people to believe Lord Jesus Christ and yet on the other hand also preach to the same people that they could ignore some of Christ’s commandments? Is this kind of act not being described as hypocrite and contradicting? Won’t you think that those words that the church had rejected will become the judge to convict the church of not following and obeying the words of Christ?
Lord Jesus had foretold two important predictions to his disciples
Before the Feast of the Passover and when super being ended, Lord Jesus foretold two important predictions concerning himself to his disciples before the incidences had come to pass:
(A) John 13: 19 Now I tell you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe that I am He. 18 "I do not speak concerning all of you. I know whom I have chosen; but that the Scripture may be fulfilled, 'He who eats bread with Me has lifted up his heel against Me.' 21 When Jesus had said these things, He was troubled in spirit, and testified and said, "Most assuredly, I say to you, one of you will betray Me." NKJV
(B) John 14: 29 "And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe. 28 You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My Father is greater than I. NKJV
The above two passages tell us that the two incidences that Lord Jesus foretold to his disciples would surely happen right in front of the disciples’ eyes. In other words, it means that the disciples would see with their own eyes that [Lord Jesus was being betrayed], [Lord Jesus physically left them] and [Lord Jesus coming back to them].
The predictions’ unique characteristics, the detail content and purpose
The first prediction is [one of you will betray me].
The second prediction is [I am going away and coming back to you].
These are two different predictions; however, they possess common unique characteristic and purpose. That is [they were being foretold before the incidences happened] and the purpose is that [when the incidences come to pass, they may believe].
You may wonder, did the incidences foretold by Lord Jesus really happen right in front of the disciples? Will Lord Jesus fulfill His predictions? When the incidences were being fulfilled, would the disciples believe?
The predictions that happened in front of the disciples
The first prediction of [one of you will betray me], had been fulfilled right in front of the disciples. Judah the Iscariot had betrayed Lord Jesus. The incidence foretold had been fulfilled. But Bible tells us that the disciples did not believe when they witnessed the prediction had happened. Not only that the disciples did not believe, in fact, Bible tells us that the disciples ran away from their Lord.
The prediction of [I am going] had also been fulfilled right in front of the disciples. Lord Jesus died for us on the cross and resurrected three days after. Lord Jesus appeared to his disciples for forty days and then ascended to heaven right in front of the disciples. Half of the second prediction had been fulfilled. Bible tells us that the disciples did not come to believe Christ even when they saw the incidence happened with their own eyes.
The second half of the second prediction of [I am coming back to you], had this incidence happened right in front of the disciples too? Would the disciples believe Lord Jesus if they had seen with their own eyes that the prediction had happened? This is the secret that we need to explore.
Before seeing the answer, let us do some brainstorming
We know that the purpose Lord Jesus foretold the two predictions before they come to pass is that when they come to pass the disciples may believe him. Therefore will you think that Lord Jesus would only fulfill one and a half of the two predictions? Will you think that Lord Jesus will break his promise or give up on his plan before all predictions were fulfilled?
From human perspective, we know that if a person is very deterministic and trustworthy, after he has made a promise, he would not give up before he fulfills all his promises. Let alone is our Almighty God, how could God fail to deliver His promises?
The second half of the second prediction that Lord Jesus had talked about
The details of the prediction of [I am coming back to you] had been clearly recorded in the book of John chapter 14:15-22.
Lord Jesus said that, those who love him and obeyed his commandments, he would not leave them as orphans. English translation used the word [leave] but in Chinese version it used [cast away]. So literally Lord Jesus meant what he said, he would not leave them. Then how could the disciples know that Lord Jesus had never left them at all when they saw with their own eyes that Lord Jesus had physically left them? [Verse John 14:20 At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you]. Well, if at that day the incidence which happened in front of the disciples was not visible and audible, how could the disciples with little faith know that the incidence had happened and [Jesus was in the Father, they were in Jesus and Jesus was in them]? Bible tells us that Lord Jesus had always known his disciples were of little faith, isn’t it? Therefore this was the reason Lord Jesus had disclosed to his disciples in verse 14:21 that he was going to [manifest] himself to the disciples. Please take note that Lord Jesus had declared that he was going to [manifest] and not [descend].
Even though Lord Jesus did not directly explain in what form that he was going to manifest himself, but realistically, Lord Jesus had provided all the information in John 14:15-22 except that we are not careful enough and miss the details.
Before Lord Jesus talked about his coming back, Lord Jesus told his disciples about the Counselor or the Helper. We know that the Counselor is the Holy Spirit (John 14:26). We know that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (1 John 3:24, Ephesians 4:30). We know that the Holy Spirit is also the Spirit of Christ (Roman 8:9, 1 Peter 1:11). We know that the Holy Spirit is also the Spirit of the Son (Galatians 4:6)
With the above information we can better understand verse 14:17. (John 14:17-18 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you). [How could the disciples see the Counselor] who had yet to come? [How could the disciples know who the Counselor was] who had yet to come? [How could the Counselor who had yet to come was with the disciples]?
Therefore you can see that when Lord Jesus was talking about the Counselor, Lord Jesus was talking about himself. Because the Counselor is the Holy Spirit and is also the Spirit of Christ, isn’t it? Hence, Lord Jesus had hinted his disciples that their master would come back and manifest to them in the form of the Holy Spirit!
This is the reason I am able to see that [during the incidence of the Holy Spirit Baptism at the Pentecost], the invisible [Holy Spirit, or the Spirit of God, or the Spirit of Christ] manifested so that the disciples could see with their own eyes. The omnipresent God and the God who fills all in all (Jeremiah 23:24, Ephesians 1:23, Psalm 139:7-12, Proverb 15:3) has no reason to descend to the place He has already presented. Therefore manifestation of the tongues of fire and sound of wind was sign proving to the disciples who had unbelief that Lord Jesus had never left them. And the manifestation was not proving that the Spirit of God was [descending] onto a place it already existed.
I have a hope
Elder Hsieh possesses abundant spiritual and Bible knowledge and he has very strong logical sense. He is well recognized by church members (including myself). Comparatively my Bible knowledge is nothing as compare with his. But when I read his book [The Holy Spirit], I am able to see that even though he has refuted other scholars’ viewpoints logically and biblically, however at the critical juncture he has proposed to his reader that it is nothing wrong to use out of context interpretation. This is absolutely beyond me and his abilities exhibited throughout his works have become a source of confusion. Could he try to utilize the abundant biblical knowledge and his logical argument as a smoke screen, covering up his motive in leading other towards out of context interpretation?
But for some unknown reason, I have the hope that if he could see the above presentation, he would be able to easily realized that Lord Jesus’ prediction would surely being fulfilled in front of the disciples so that they might believe Christ. I believe he would be able to see the same fact as me that the prediction had been fulfilled at the Pentecost.
If I try to submit my research to TRC, like all of you have mentioned in this forum, the article will fall onto the revolving door. It may not even have a slightest chance to be seen by elder Hsieh and be buried somewhere in the circular-revolution.
If any of the reader who knows elder Hsieh or who know his ideas-box, please do a favor to the church, to the millions of souls and show it to elder Hsieh. Any reprimand shall be borne by me. However, if God has really opened my eyes to see His truths, elder Hsieh may regret if he does not have the chance to read it. At least he may regret that he does not fully make use of his position and reputation established by God in this church to untie the knot created by out of context interpretation which has been lasted over nearly a hundred years.
This is also the reason that I have composed my finding into a book (sorry only in English). Whether you want to buy the book and read it, such decision is absolutely in your hand. I can only say that if the message is true and you can know more about Lord Jesus and God by reading it, paying the money less than the tip you toss to the waiter/waitress over your dinner table is your decision to make!
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